Surgery for Albert

HeneryHawk · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:59 am Post subject: Surgery for Albert

work on the nerve in the elbow, but have left the MCL alone ( he has been playing with it torn for SIX seasons now...wow! ).

Pujols has elbow surgery

Albert Pujols tosses his bat aside after hitting his 300th career home run on July 4 this year in a game at Busch Stadium. (Chris Lee/P-D)FROM STAFF REPORTS
10/13/2008

Cardinals first baseman and MVP candidate Albert Pujols had surgery on his troublesome right elbow Monday, the team announced late this afternoon. Pujols had surgery to decompress and relocate the ulnar nerve in his right elbow, a joint that has given him problems since he strained a ligament there early in 2003.

The surgery "did not require reconstruction of the medial collateral ligament," the release from the club states, underlining the words "did not".

The release states Pujols will begin his rehab this week and "make his recovery" by spring training.

A year ago, Pujols completed the 2007 season in such discomfort with his right elbow that the Cardinals and team medical officials explained three alternatives to Pujols. The tear in his elbow was worse than the one that sent Chris Carpenter for Tommy John surgery during 2007, and medical officials told Pujols that that procedure was the only sure way to correct the injury. The other choices Pujols had was a cleanup procedure or to skip surgery and attack the condition through treatment at rest.

Pujols opted then for non-surgical treatment.

At the end of this season, Pujols described the discomfort in his elbow as present but to a lesser degree than it was a year ago. He met with team doctor, George Paletta, and he visited with specialist Dr. James Andrews, to again discuss forms of treatment. Besides the chronic soreness in the joint, Pujols cannot fully extend his right arm. Among the treatment alternatives discussed was Monday's procedure -- to transpose the ulnar nerve to alleviate the discomfort.

Paletta performed the surgery, according to the team release.

"He had no significant problems (with the ligament this season). I am still optimistic we can manage this without surgery for the remainder of his career," Paletta said a press conference this afternoon about Pujols' torn ligament.

Pujols hit .357, finishing second to Chipper Jones in the batting race and he led the Cardinals with 37 home runs and 116 RBIs. He has played with the torn ligament in his elbow for six seasons, including 2005 when he won the National League MVP and 2006 when he rewrote many of his career bests and won a World Series title.

Pujols has elbow surgery

Albert Pujols tosses his bat aside after hitting his 300th career home run on July 4 this year in a game at Busch Stadium. (Chris Lee/P-D)FROM STAFF REPORTS
10/13/2008

Cardinals first baseman and MVP candidate Albert Pujols had surgery on his troublesome right elbow Monday, the team announced late this afternoon. Pujols had surgery to decompress and relocate the ulnar nerve in his right elbow, a joint that has given him problems since he strained a ligament there early in 2003.

The surgery "did not require reconstruction of the medial collateral ligament," the release from the club states, underlining the words "did not".

The release states Pujols will begin his rehab this week and "make his recovery" by spring training.

A year ago, Pujols completed the 2007 season in such discomfort with his right elbow that the Cardinals and team medical officials explained three alternatives to Pujols. The tear in his elbow was worse than the one that sent Chris Carpenter for Tommy John surgery during 2007, and medical officials told Pujols that that procedure was the only sure way to correct the injury. The other choices Pujols had was a cleanup procedure or to skip surgery and attack the condition through treatment at rest.

Pujols opted then for non-surgical treatment.

At the end of this season, Pujols described the discomfort in his elbow as present but to a lesser degree than it was a year ago. He met with team doctor, George Paletta, and he visited with specialist Dr. James Andrews, to again discuss forms of treatment. Besides the chronic soreness in the joint, Pujols cannot fully extend his right arm. Among the treatment alternatives discussed was Monday's procedure -- to transpose the ulnar nerve to alleviate the discomfort.

Paletta performed the surgery, according to the team release.

"He had no significant problems (with the ligament this season). I am still optimistic we can manage this without surgery for the remainder of his career," Paletta said a press conference this afternoon about Pujols' torn ligament.

Pujols hit .357, finishing second to Chipper Jones in the batting race and he led the Cardinals with 37 home runs and 116 RBIs. He has played with the torn ligament in his elbow for six seasons, including 2005 when he won the National League MVP and 2006 when he rewrote many of his career bests and won a World Series title.
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Uberhawk · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject:

Albert is one tough hombre. Best of luck on his recovery. The guy is phenomenol and should be the 2008 MVP.

T-Rex · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject:

I would probably agree with you had the Cards made the playoffs. In fact, I generally agree with you, anyway, but voters won't take into consideration that Pujols took the team quite a bit farther than anyone expected them to go. I suspect they'll go with Howard.

lunchbox · Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:44 am Post subject:

See what using steroids gets you!

HeneryHawk · Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:42 am Post subject:

Okay ,now that's a stupid comment, lunch.
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Uberhawk · Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject:

If the voters go that way, T, they are flat-out wrong this season. Sure, Howard is on a playoff team, but he also has other big boppers that helped the Phillies get there. Pujols is most valuable to his team, hands down. It would be wrong for them to vote otherwise, considering these stats:

Average: Howard .251; Pujols .357
Hits: Howard 153; Pujols 187
Walks: Howard 81; Pujols 104
Strikeouts: Howard 199; Pujols 54
Homers: Howard 48; Pujols 37
Slugging: Howard .543; Pujols .653
On Base Pct.: Howard .339; Pujols .462
Runs: Howard 105; Pujols 100
RBI: Howard 146; Pujols 116
Fielding: Howard: 19 errors for .988 percentage
Pujols: 6 errors for .996 percentagte

Howard exceeds Albert in RBI, HR and runs scored. All other offensive and defensive categories Albert swamps Howard.

Sure, if it's close in stats, give it to the guy on the winningest team. If not, give it to the best guy. I maintain it's not close.

lunchbox · Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:47 am Post subject:

So HH, you're telling me that his injuries don't fall in line with the injuries of admitted 'roid users?

Have you been paying attention? Not to mention that approx. 80% are using 'roids.

Funny how the only person with any credibility on this issue is Canseco. But Henery would believe Palmeiro if he said he never used.

HeneryHawk · Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:48 am Post subject:

You have no proof. He has never been implicated in any roid use. You throw around slanderous comments way, way too easily. By your puny sense of "logic", anyone with a ACL,MCL, or similar type of injury would be a roid casualty, like Jarryd Cole, on the Iowa MBB team. Pujols has a similar injury, but in his elbow, with bone chips/spurs, how do you figure it is degenerative and caused by roids?
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lunchbox · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:57 am Post subject:

I love how history always plays out...

HeneryHawk · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject:

That's weak. You are hoping for something negative, for failure, so you can take glee in it, that's sick. Much less, you again have no proof, just slanderous commentary. If there is proof, bring it on.
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T-Rex · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject:

Ube, I know you're campaigning for your guy, but I think HR, RBIs and runs scored are pretty dang important - moreso than any of the other categories. And, I don't really agree with it as much, either, but you typically don't see an MVP selected from a non-playoff team. Good luck, though.

lunchbox · Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:54 am Post subject:

HH, obviously it is speculation on my part. Can you name any other players who have done as well in such a short time recently?

Let's see:

Mark McGwire
Jose Canseco (1st 40-40 player)
Barry Bonds (after he started on the 'roids)
Gary Sheffield
Sammy Sosa
Roger Clemens (with him getting better as he got older)
Miguel Tejada
Jason Giambi

and the list goes on, but why in the world would we ever look at what is known as a trend? How often to players on 'roids get injured? How often is Albert injured?

Why pay any attention to the one person with any credibility on this subject? (Canseco)

My bad, I forgot that KF didn't say this so it cannot possibly be true.

Good God man, common sense has to kick in some time.

Uberhawk · Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject:

True, T, but Howard's totals -- except for ribbies -- are only slightly better than Albert's, not enough to offset Albert's faraway advantage in all other categories. Sure, I'm campaigning for him. We have to sit and watch other teams play in the playoffs, so we need some kind of cause until opening day next season!

Albert is hardly ever injured enough to miss many games. He also will play hurt and would play 162 every year if Tony would let him. So what's the point, Lunch? Eight straight seasons, from the first day he started in the big leauges, he has put up unprecedented numbers. He plays healthy, he plays clean and he plays smart. I wonder why you think otherwise. His head didn't suddenly get pumpkin sized like another player you mentioned.

lunchbox · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:05 am Post subject:

Player Transaction History
Date Transaction
June 26, 2008 Removed from 15-day DL
June 12, 2008 Placed on 15-day DL (Strained left calf - out 3-4 weeks)
June 22, 2006 Removed from 15-day DL
June 04, 2006 Placed on 15-day DL (Strained right oblique)
February 19, 2004 Signed with St. Louis Cardinals
August 21, 2003 Reinstated from league suspension
August 19, 2003 Starting to serve suspension
July 25, 2003 Suspension announced by league
March 17, 2003 Signed with St. Louis Cardinals
March 05, 2002 Signed with St. Louis Cardinals
April 02, 2001 Signed with St. Louis Cardinals
March 31, 2001 Purchased from minors

Yet he has never played in 162 games in a single season...

Wasn't McGwire's injury to his oblique also? MLB still does not have a way to test for HGH, are we to believe there aren't other 'designer' roids on the market?
NOBODY is this good without a little bit of help.

T-Rex · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:29 am Post subject:

Ube, I guess what I was trying to say is that HRs, RBIs, and runs scored are head-and-shoulders above all other stats...i.e., it's the ultimate in production that every player is trying to accomplish. So, if AP was up in at least 2 of those categories over Howard, then I'd agree with you. The other stats are just window dressing.